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Choose!

Lovecraft
7(14.6%)
Tolkien
19(39.6%)
Both
12(25.0%)
Neither
10(20.8%)


If you answered "Neither," feel free to suggest alternatives in the comments.

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jennreese
Apr. 11th, 2011 08:32 pm (UTC)
When I was reading Tolkien, some of my friends preferred Moorcock's Elric series for its anti-hero and rejection of standard quests/heroes. (I also loved the Elric series, but not in the same way as I loved Tolkien.)
snurri
Apr. 11th, 2011 08:54 pm (UTC)
I liked Elric, too, but never obsessively. He's one mean Melnibonéan.
nihilistic_kid
Apr. 11th, 2011 08:39 pm (UTC)
THERE IS NO ALTERNATIVE TO LOVECRAFT!
le_trombone
Apr. 12th, 2011 12:18 am (UTC)
I clicked on Lovecraft too, but briefly considered Dunsany (whom Lovecraft liked a lot).
janradder
Apr. 11th, 2011 08:43 pm (UTC)
I clicked on both, but if I were forced to choose I'd go with Tolkien, only because I've always thought Lovecraft was just writing the same story over and over with slight variations, which can get a little dull after a while.
tim_pratt
Apr. 11th, 2011 08:50 pm (UTC)
I still want to write an epic fantasy set in a universe whose underpinnings are Lovecraftian rather than Tolkienesque. (Whenever I mention this, my agent begins to sob uncontrollably.)
snurri
Apr. 11th, 2011 08:52 pm (UTC)
You'd think that she'd make her sanity check eventually.
jennreese
Apr. 11th, 2011 11:14 pm (UTC)
Nice. LOL
jonhansen
Apr. 12th, 2011 01:30 pm (UTC)
Yes, but everytime she misses it, her score drops and it gets that much harder next time.
nancylebov
Apr. 12th, 2011 06:14 pm (UTC)
Really? It sounds like it might be fun, and my tastes aren't wildly uncommercial.

Epic Lovecraft hasn't been done yet, but both epic fantasy and Lovecraft are popular.

However, at the moment I'm distracted by the idea of people's feet being eaten by their Cthulhu slippers.
shsilver
Apr. 11th, 2011 09:04 pm (UTC)
Robert E. Howard and Clark Ashton Smith
jamesenge
Apr. 12th, 2011 01:31 am (UTC)
I've read much of Lovecraft and enjoyed some. But I don't fully get why he's such a big deal to people.

Dunsany, Le Guin, Leiber or Zelazny loom almost as large as JRRT to me.
scarypudding
Apr. 12th, 2011 01:40 am (UTC)
Prize for Lifetime Achievement In Channeling Reactionary Nativism Into Fantasy, is it?
jenfu
Apr. 12th, 2011 01:57 am (UTC)
I chose both, and then realized you weren't talking about slash fiction. Sigh.
snurri
Apr. 12th, 2011 05:05 pm (UTC)
You're my favorite.
orbitalmechanic
Apr. 12th, 2011 07:03 pm (UTC)
Agreed!
jamiam
Apr. 12th, 2011 06:05 am (UTC)
I sort of feel about them both the way I feel about hamburgers and hip-hop: culturally important, but not something I'm in a mood for all that often.
haddayr
Apr. 13th, 2011 12:22 am (UTC)
Anything with girls and women characters in it?

Don't mean to go on a rant, but I was actually thinking about this on my way home today. Ben's daughter Aviva refuses to read things without girl characters -- real ones, not token ones. She stopped Ben when he started reading her the Hobbit and just said: NO.

I've felt slightly guilty for feeling alienated from so many of the High Nerd Texts throughout my life, but no longer. I just am not interested in reading stuff in which I'm not represented.

I think that's why I'll never be as rabid about pro ball as Jan is, too.

I'm not mad about it, necessarily. I just find stories of girls' and women's lives more interesting.
snurri
Apr. 13th, 2011 01:07 am (UTC)
I think that Aviva's objections--and yours--are well-founded, and your rants are always welcome. I was being cryptic about it, but with this poll I was testing a theory about these two names that seem to loom so ridiculously large in the DNA of fantasy. I tried to come up with at least one more name, preferably a woman's name, to include, but I failed; maybe I should have included Le Guin, or even Dinesen, but the one came 30+ years after these two and the other could easily be argued out of the genre, I think. There are others, like Evangeline Walton, who novelized the Mabinogion back around Tolkien's time, or Hope Mirrlees, maybe--she only wrote the one fantasy book, but then Tolkien is mainly known for those four books, three of which were intended to be one. Shirley Jackson? Angela Carter? I was trying to get at influence, and it's troubling that I can't point to a specific name to counterbalance these guys with. Maybe it's just more diffuse, because the canon is such a dick about recognizing women; I think, too, that Jenn's example of the fairy tale impulse as standing in opposition to "epic" stories is at least on the right track, and maybe what I'm really after is something related to the fact that I've recently decided that I prefer women writers. I am, for some reason, wanting to map these things out a bit just for myself, and in a more useful way than, say, this thing. So I'm groping a bit, but I guess I've decided that part of what's stopped my blogging is a reluctance to be wrong or look stupid, and I'm determined to get over that.

Sorry so long; I read your comment as I was headed out for a bike ride and ended up thinking about it the entire time I was out.
(Anonymous)
Apr. 13th, 2011 09:08 am (UTC)
C. L. Moore?
snurri
Apr. 13th, 2011 01:26 am (UTC)
I meant to say that I think the theory I was testing has been disproved, or at least dealt a major blow, which is why I'm shifting my thinking towards something a bit different. Mission of being wrong accomplished!
bondgwendabond
Apr. 13th, 2011 01:29 am (UTC)
Angela Carter? :)
snurri
Apr. 13th, 2011 01:33 am (UTC)
Heh; I was just groping towards that name in my reply to Haddayr, above. Too late for this poll, but I'm still trying to figure out what I'm talking about here, so I guess that's OK.
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